LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

The real haters in Charlottesville

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To the editor:

It’s interesting that whenever white people gather to legally exercise their civil and constitutional rights to assemble and protest, they are called “white supremacists” and “Nazis.” When Jews march in the New York City Israeli parade, the media doesn’t call them “Jewish supremacists.”

When Black Lives Matter holds a protest, they are not called “black supremacists.” The slander and epithets are hurled only at white people.

On Aug. 12, at the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, hundreds of white people gathered — with a legal permit — to protest the erasure of American history, the erosion of traditional values, and to air other legitimate grievances. This would have been a very peaceful, enjoyable day, if the police had done their job and protected the white people from the violent thugs from antifa (anti-fascist groups) and Black Lives Matter, who came armed with mace, acid, metal bats and poles. 

The governor of Virginia, Terry McAuliffe — a Clintonista shill — refused to allow the rally to go forward, despite the permit, thus denying white people their civil and constitutional rights. The police illegally shut down the rally, and then deliberately herded the whites into the violent mob of antifa and BLM activists.

Whites were then forced to defend themselves.

In this age, when all non-whites engage in identity politics and freely vent their hatred against white people, it is about time that whites organize to protect themselves and their own unique interests. 

Anyone who has a problem with that is the real racist and hater.

Patty Goldstein

Patty Goldstein

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Oy

This has got to be a joke. Hard enough to imagine someone holding such a repellant out-of-touch position, let alone choosing to express it publicly. I'm not buying it at all.

Friday, August 25
Jennifer Scarlott

@Oy, I share your feeling that these views are repellent, but I also think it's important to grapple with the fact that they are real, and not necessarily singular to this writer. FYI, Ms. Goldstein shares her "thoughts" from time to time:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/nyregion/to-whom-it-may-infuriate.html?mcubz=0&_r=0

Friday, August 25
Fr. Andrew

Dear Patty,

White people gathered at the monument in Riverdale on Sunday evening following the events in Charlottesville. No one called those white people Nazis or white supremacists. That is because they were not Nazis or white supremacists. The people that you are referring to as simply white were indeed Nazis and white supremacists by their own admission. Unfortunately, even a white person lost her life because of a white supremacist. It is your simplistic way of thinking that got our current president elected and suddenly made it ok to express this virulent racism because we had become too politically correct. If you are not aware that Nazis and white supremacists do indeed exist in this country I would be glad to meet with you and provide evidence.

Friday, August 25
TruthTeller

@Fr. Andrew.....

Ah, yet another example of a letter written by a leftist that is dripping with class hatred.

This quote: "It is your simplistic way of thinking that got our current president elected and suddenly made it ok to express this virulent racism" is very reminiscent of the murdering Hilary Clinton's expression of class hatred when she said all Trump supporters are "baskets of deplorables." The fact is the race war being ginned up by the elitists on the left and the right is wholly a media creation to keep us fighting eachother while the bankers and their military-industrial complex friends can laugh all the way to the bank.

In the real world, Trump supporters for the most part (99 percent in my estimation) voted for him for several reasons, none of which have to do with race. I was one of these voters. They were the pledges to, amongst other things:

1) End the wars

2) Renegotiate these trade deals that have decimated the middle and lower classes.

3) Get a handle on illegal immigration, which again has decimated the middle and lower classes, especially the black community.

4) Drain the swamp.

Never did Trump ever utter anything that could even remotely be considered racist, except maybe his mistake of saying that Mexico is sending their rapists and murderers here, which is actually true, but the media reported his "their" and "they're" and all of a sudden, according to the left, he called every Mexican a rapist. God you people are dumb,

Having said all this, were there racists that voted for Trump because of some perceived sympathies they thought he had? Of course. But weren't there millions of people who only voted for Obama because he was black? And proudly admitted it? The answer again is of course, and that is just as racist as a white voting for Trump because of some imagined mindset he has. And of course, Obama turned out to be just as bad a warmonger and killer of covil liberties as everyone before him.

Having said all this, Trump ended up being like all politicians.....full of crap and a complete liar. But as a person who Jesse Jackson once praised as being a big supporter of the black community and as a person who hired the first female civil engineer in the history of NYC (Barbara Res, look her up), Trump could hardly be classified a racist, sexist or any other pejorative assigned to him by the Soros funded left.

In an ideal world, the left and right would come together and realize that we are all getting screwed over by the elite. The elite uses their media and paid for agitators on both sides to keep this race war narrative going, and all you people are falling for it hook, line and sinker. Jeez, didn't the last 17 years of absolute criminality on the part of the dems and repubs teach you people anything?

Also, why all of a sudden are "Nazis" a huge problem in America? Anybody with an internet connection can look up the fact that the American NAzi Party, started by George Lincoln Rockwell, has been around for over 60 years. These guys are dipshits mostly still living with their moms and probably make up about .0000000000000000000000000000000001 percent of the population. But all of a sudden this is a big problem where two weeks ago we never heard of it. People, you are BEING PLAYED!!!!!

Saturday, August 26
Fr. Andrew

Dear truth teller. Thank you for your response. There is much about your reply that I agree with. And it might surprise you that we have more in common than not. As far as me being a leftist with class hatred I am from a small hick town called Mechanicsville Virginia. 99.5% of the people I went to school with and my family members voted for Donald Trump. Where I come from my parents and I were called Southern white trash. I have hatred towards no one and my faith has taught me to see and honor the worth and value of everyone. I did not call anyone "a basket of deplorables." It may surprise you, even those I disagree with. The current two party political system and the media are mostly to blame but to say that not to use and white supremacists are just now becoming a problem it's not true. If you and those who voted for Donald Trump believe that he will deliver on any of the promises you enumerated above I'm afraid you will be sorely disappointed. I would have gladly voted for a candidate who would have brought real change to Washington but there wasn't one. The black people that I know would tell you that racism and hatred by white people had been a problem and still is. While Nazis and white supremacists may be a surprise to us blake folks are not surprised. I would welcome the opportunity to have coffee with you sometime and discuss the many issues on which we agree and disagree but can we please not resort to name calling and labeling one another.

Saturday, August 26
TruthTeller

Thanks Fr. Andrew for your reasoned and measured response which actually furthered the conversation rather than whip up chimeras that keep us divided and confused. If you did not mean what I thought you meant, please accept my apologies and we can move on with the discussion.

I guess my main problem with your original statement was the use of the word "simple." One day, when emotions die down and we can actually analyze the 2016 election in the real world, it will be seen that the media has been the biggest perpetrator of myths and lies about the typical Trump supporter. Like any political figure, and much like Obama, a lot of people projected their hopes and dreams on Trump that may not have been justified. Racists and white supremacists may be part of that for sure but certainly were not the majority of his base. But just like Obama betrayed the hopes and dreams of so many leftists by continuing the wars, signing the NDAA and ginning up the race war and class divisions, Trump has betrayed a lot of his base as well. Why? Because those things certain people projected onto him were figments of their imagination. Trump was never a white supremacist just like Obama was not a real left leaning transformational character. They both turned out to be nothing more than lying warmongers that are doing the bidding of Wall Street.

But this does not negate the fact that a huge portion of Trumps base consisted of people from all strata of society with one common beef.....Gov't has become too large, too corrupt, too out of touch and is taking us to the brink of destruction of beyond with their imperial wars, excessive regulation at home and just a sense that enough it enough. Racism might have motivated .00000001 percent of his base, but these people again were projecting things on him that weren't reflected in the real world. Just like leftists projected onto Obama that he was going to be the savior and we ended up, truthfully speaking, with more poverty, more class and race divisions, more wars and less civil liberties.

Everyone I know who voted for Trump, and we all stay underground because of the Soviet style response here in NYC if you dare announce your support for him, voted for him to end wars and restore some semblance of what they perceived as the good old days of the 50's-70's. Their main concerns were dominated by economics and peace. If those on the left would recognize this rather than get swept up in the false narrative of NAzis under every bed, think about what we could achieve nationally. Bernie supporters and Trump supporters had a hell of a lot in common. Perhaps, if we don't end up with Civil War II, these factions will actually come together, realize their common fate, and actually for real throw these bums out, which now includes Trump.

My last sentence there is really the one I am trying to convey and seems to have gotten missed. As a Trump supporter and a person 100 percent behind his stated agenda during the election, I am officially off the Trump train. He has betrayed his freedom and peace-loving base with his latest BS on Afghanistan and now we are left rudderless. Leftists should stop antagonizing and get some encouragement from this fact. If only Obama's base had been so perceptive and willing to admit his betrayal of them we might not have ended up with a Hilary or Trump as our only choice. In other words, we are all responsible for this mess and we have to come together to fix it. But with the media pushing this false narrative of division, and people falling for it hook, line and sinker, I have no doubt we're going to end up with another lying politician that sells us all out to Wall Street and the Military/Industrial complex again.

Sunday, August 27
TruthTeller

Just want to clarify my second paragraph above. In a nutshell, the people Trump betrayed were not the White Supremacists as can be interpreted from reading the second paragraph. What I meant was that he betrayed those who thought he was going to bring peace and sanity back to the world just like Obama betrayed people for the same reason. My projection statement was a little confusing. Those who thought he was a racist and voted for him because of that were let down too, but again, the majority of his base were there because of the peace and economic populism message, not perceived racism that was only heard as a so-called "dog whistle." The small percentage of racists were projecting a false image on him just like the people like me who projected onto him that he would bring peace to our land again, which was what he said he would do. Turned out to be a big, fat lie, but that doesn't negate the fact that the typical Trump voter's motivations were good, not evil.

Sunday, August 27
TruthTeller

After watching this:

https://www.prisonplanet.com/antifa-mobs-violently-attack-peaceful-protesters-at-berkeley-police-stand-down.html

DO you still believe the narrative that only the right is violent?

Monday, August 28
Jewish War Vet

Worth repeating what "democrap for life" posted

Great insight

"I used to think I was just a regular guy, but . . . I was born white, which now, whether I like it or not, makes me a racist.

I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which by today's standards, makes me a fascist.

I am heterosexual, which according to gay folks, now makes me a homophobic.

I am non-union, which makes me a traitor to the working class and an ally of big business.

I am a Jewish, which now labels me as an infidel.

I believe in the 2nd Amendment, which now makes me a member of the vast gun lobby.

I am 70, which makes me a useless old man.

I think and I reason, therefore I doubt much that the main stream media tells me, which must make me a reactionary.

I am proud of my heritage and our inclusive American culture, which makes me a xenophobe.

I value my safety and that of my family and I appreciate the police and the legal system, which makes me a right-wing extremist.

I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair compensation according to each individual's merits, which today makes me an anti-socialist.

I believe in the defense and protection of the homeland for and by all citizens, which now makes me a militant.

Recently, a sick old woman called me and my friends a “basket of deplorables”.

Please help me come to terms with the new me . . because I'm just not sure who I am anymore!

I would like to thank all my friends for sticking with me through these abrupt, new found changes in my life and my thinking!

I just can't imagine or understand what's happened to me so quickly!

Funny . . . it's all just taken place over the last 7 or 8 years! As if all this crap wasn't enough to deal with. I'm now afraid to go into either restroom!

In God We Trust."

Thursday, August 31